Possibly, because it was settled by mostly poor resource deprived people. Survival often depended upon reliance to each other. IMO the "beat down of the partner who have needs met out side the "relationship" is the part that needs to be explored. The let's be angry and it's justified is not the real story. There are many "betrayals" that are socially acceptable. No matter how the real feelings of the other are they are pressured bullied into acceptance of fate they are powerless to change. Expectation that one person would meet or is actually capable of meeting all our emotional, sexual, culturally instilled expectations and internal needs is down right wrong.
Couples lesbian, gay, and straight are my specialty, and I have walked many through rebuilding trust using the work of the Gottman Institute. The Gottmans use a lot of the late Shirley Glass's work as written about in Not Just Friends with a three phase treatment plan that is very detailed about how recovery can happen-transparency being how to build the new stronger marriage, with focus on affair proofing. If I taught couples that they have to learn that, quoting your blog "Over time, the injured partner needs to understand that total transparency is no longer useful, and needs to prepare for that to end and learn to trust in the dark.
What I mean by that is that when a partner is able to create secrecy and wall out the other mate, transparency is the only way to pull that wall down and keep it down. Healing after affairs for sure is all about shining a light on what happened and keeping the light on, not walking in the dark. That is the one thing that a partner who cheats has the hardest time with-being open, honest, disclosing. Trust in post affair relationships is earned.
Also, not one of my clients has declared sexual fantasy or desire not being honored as their complaint of the marriage driving them outside of it! In fact Glass is pretty clear in her research on cheating that it is NOT that there is a mate who is deficient and driving the other out, but it is the cheater who is crashing the relationship through hiding and lying and carrying on with outside partners. Extramarital Affairs Resource Center's Peggy Vaughan RIP was adamant about this too-and she made sure the therapists she personally vetted for her recommended list for treating affairs were, among other things, not going to blame the cheated on.
Reducing the stigma on people in open relationships. Deals and Shenanigans. Type keyword s to search. Thanks for this great book! It should go without saying that you need to break off contact with the other woman or man.
How can you make a generalization like that? So you are saying that there are NO CASES where someone is sexually repressed and denying their partner to such an extent that they go outside the marriage to fulfill their fantasies? That would be patent BS. Hi im jenny, i had my friend help me hack my ex's email, call log, facebook cause i suspected he was cheating.
IF u need help tell him isabella referred you to him and he'll help. If you're not suited for "monogamy", don't get married - don't pledge fidelity. There is no excuse for cheating. None, period.
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If you live in a free society, and you're miserable, then divorce. You have no right to abuse your partner because you felt lonely, neglected, etc. No, the problem is that someone lacks commitment to marriage, honesty, ethics, and their role as husband or wife. I know every single day that I am not going to cheat. I never have. I never will. I'm not going to do that to someone. It's mean. It's cruel. It's selfish. It's base. It cheapens and weakens the entire fabric of society. Cheating is abuse, period. And it's not okay to cheat either.
Many "therapists" have done much harm by lecturing victims that they have brought this abuse upon themselves. Thankfully, this attitude is changing. Cheaters are sick, and they need help. Healthy people don't lie and manipulate other people. And they certainly don't get a pass because they felt lonely, etc. Society needs a cultural revolution where cheating is a recognized abuse, not to be laughed about, accepted, or blamed upon its victims. My heart to those who have been experienced this tragedy.
If you're the cheater, get help. Learn healthy ways to solve your problems and deal with frustration, etc. Live a life that puts good into the world -- not one that tears others down. It's not always possible for year-olds who marry young to know how they're going to feel in this regard when they're Nobody here said there was a valid reason. But it is a fact that sometimes neglect, etc contributes to unjustifiable cheating that would not otherwise have taken place.
You're speaking of incompetent therapists. It is not the job at all of a therapist to assign "blame". In fact a good therapist realizes that the marriage can usually not be repaired until the cheater fully understands how much they have hurt their spouse.
But to go further, it is sometimes also the case that BOTH partners contributed to the problem, perhaps in ways that were very much unintended. And all of those issues need to be addressed. ALL thanks to dr. I've been in a relationship for 2 years and I was inappropriately speaking to other woman behind my GF's back eventually after numerous chances she then decided to pay me back with physical infidelity And I have reason to believe more then what she's told me If we can't have that conversation..
Are they more important then I? Is it the guilt that causes her outrages? I accuse and have before she acted out.. But now since started it just seems she down spiraled and I have no reason to believe she loves me anymore.. Our relationship is just me accusing her and calling her name's with put Downs because I feel lied she's M.
How do you bridge this gap? I've been in a relationship for 2 years and I was inappropriately speaking to other woman behind my GF's back eventually after numerous chances she then decided to pay me back with physical infidelity. Maybe what you really want is an open relationship? You've both already essentially managed have that unintentionally. You've now both had outside relationships and you've both admitted it to each other.
If that's not what you want, then the key to attracting your partner to you is to be the person they want to be with, NOT the person who is trying to make them feel bad and guilty. If you don't get that, you need to read some books and see a therapist together. And if you're not willing to do that, you're not ready for a relationship, at least not this one.
In other words, if you behave like someone that she doesn't want to be with, then she doesn't want to be with you, period. Got that? That's the thing you're not understanding. I appreciate your time and I get what your saying.. I truly love her but haven't treated her like I do because of the stuff that went down We're so connected in many levels it makes me sick to continuously be reminded of the situation..
I just thought we could lay all the cards on the table.. Then again if I treat her poorly she won't want to tell me anything If I'm badgering her with names like whore and Douche bag.. And constant out Dien because I'm still upset.. This has made my life a living hell.. We get together and our time together is horrible I can't live with her or without her And I don't want an open relationship..
I've asked her about that years ago.. Maybe if she agreed then we wouldn't have this issue now But I can't help to think she wants me to stay alone with her while she does what she wants An I allowed to be honest?? As long as your feelings about the situation are more important to you than how she feels, you're not going to get very far. All you're both doing is fighting to be right. Nobody wants a partner who's fighting to show they're right and that you're wrong.
You both need to go to therapy or a counselor. They can really help in a situation like this. Or you need a cooling off period apart. You're not likely to solve this by constantly arguing because all it does is build up more memories of bad feelings about being together. Some people fight like this for many years. Many have found it better to move on. I think your right Because Everytime we have a break up there's somebody over at her place I went home Friday night and showed up last night by the back and viewed inside the premises only to be right..
I then went to the front and rang. When she opened the inside door and saw it was me she closed it abruptly And eventually her daughter opened it but I already knew what was up But why won't she admitt it She straight LIES right to my face.. The worst thing is it always seems to be some loser who she can't benefit from I tirelessly work hard and because I'm not around enough for her convenience.
I get ignored and shut out.. Wtf is this How can somebody say they love you and hate you still the same time? My ex cheated on me a LOT. And constantly accused me of cheating on him even though I was totally faithful. He was so aggressive for a lot worse reasons than that,i know he does all that to cover up his shortcomings. His strange approach to issues and secrete phone calls got me worked-up, but all thanks to 'hackingloop' for their investigative and hacking service that helped me gain access to his phone and exposed all his secrete cheating activities.
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Victim-blaming Submitted by Transparency always on April 29, - am. If you're not suited for Submitted by Gary g on April 29, - pm. Anonymous wrote:. So I just kept putting one foot in front of the other. They were too young. Kick him out? Maybe later. But right now? I felt like I was fighting for my life. Often times, people assume that if a man cheats, that means his wife was a shrew , a nag. She let herself go. The other woman was sexy and interesting. He was trading up. He cheated because there was something wrong with him.
And he thought he could find the answer in the fantasy of an affair. I went to a therapist who urged me to give myself as long as I needed to sort this out, and to learn to trust myself. Trust myself? It took me four years to realize that my husband was having an affair. How could I ever trust myself? Six months after he admitted to the affair, my husband made an off-hand remark about visiting a strip club with a colleague several years prior.
I wondered. Or did he? There were others. He was in therapy for sex addiction, he told me, curled up in the fetal position. His hands were covering his face as if to both contain his shame, and to protect himself from my anger, my shock, my disgust. He was in pieces. My children needed a whole father. I told him that I could only promise him that I would be his friend as he sought help for this. I figured that—once he was fully recovered—I would leave.
Or he would. I was sure of it. Life continued to be a roller coaster of crazy highs and numbing lows. Eventually, our sex life stopped altogether. The intimacy felt like too much. And I tried to become comfortable with that uncertainty. As I tried to heal, I watched my husband do the painful work of excavating decades of grief, facing down long-repressed abuse, and repeatedly showing up to support me in my own pain.
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It took a long time, which is another thing nobody tells you about infidelity: It can take years to get through. Two to five, the experts say , though two is overly optimistic, in my opinion. So here I am. Our marriage feels rich and deep and fun, for the most part. Like any longtime married couple , we have our problems. My husband, for instance, still tends to compartmentalize difficult feelings, while I prefer to put them under a microscope. End of story. You get to make your own choices based on yours.
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